Comments on: Forget that Iron Sharpens Iron Stuff… http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.-Ronald Reagan Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:00:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13570 Adam Graham Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:06:18 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13570 It's something we've definitely thought about and continue to. Thanks. :) It’s something we’ve definitely thought about and continue to. Thanks. :)

]]> By: Charley http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13568 Charley Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:02:31 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13568 Yeah...lack of children does make it difficult to homeschool! May your quiver one day be overflowing! In the mean time, take the time to nail down with your wife your Biblical foundations for homeschooling and for childrearing. May I suggest that you focus on what it would mean to DISCIPLE your children rather than simply EDUCATE them. Note also the difference between "smart" and "wise"...along with God's priorities and thoughts on wisdom. How would you go about raising children who are "wise" and who will influence their culture? What does it mean to influence the culture? How would a Biblical Christian go about doing just that? (For some starter thoughts, go back to the beginning of my homedisciplingdad blog and read through some of the posts.) These are the sorts of questions that can lead to wonderful discussions with your wife and to wonderful plans for your children. They will be blessed by your efforts now to sort these types of things out. Charley Yeah…lack of children does make it difficult to homeschool! May your quiver one day be overflowing!

In the mean time, take the time to nail down with your wife your Biblical foundations for homeschooling and for childrearing. May I suggest that you focus on what it would mean to DISCIPLE your children rather than simply EDUCATE them. Note also the difference between “smart” and “wise”…along with God’s priorities and thoughts on wisdom. How would you go about raising children who are “wise” and who will influence their culture? What does it mean to influence the culture? How would a Biblical Christian go about doing just that? (For some starter thoughts, go back to the beginning of my homedisciplingdad blog and read through some of the posts.)

These are the sorts of questions that can lead to wonderful discussions with your wife and to wonderful plans for your children. They will be blessed by your efforts now to sort these types of things out.

Charley

]]> By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13564 Adam Graham Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:54:18 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13564 Well, we don't have kids now, making it hard to homeschool now, but when we have them, the process will start. Not really with formal schooling, but reading and CDs and such. (No Videos for kids under 2 or 3.) Of course, if we adopt an older child, we'll send them to Christian school at least initially. There's a very good one in the Vally that's solidly biblical. Well, we don’t have kids now, making it hard to homeschool now, but when we have them, the process will start. Not really with formal schooling, but reading and CDs and such. (No Videos for kids under 2 or 3.)

Of course, if we adopt an older child, we’ll send them to Christian school at least initially. There’s a very good one in the Vally that’s solidly biblical.

]]> By: Charley http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13562 Charley Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:27:35 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13562 Hi Adam, I'm glad to hear you are going to homeschool...does that mean you are currently homeschooling, or planning to as young ones get old enough? Even if you are convinced of your position, I found all three of these books to be extremely encouraging as well as very good for formulating your overall homeschooling philosophies. I agree that every time a person justifies his sending his children to the government schools, he says his particular schools are good relative to the others. Somehow I suspect that can't truly be the case! And I think you have stated the position for argument for NOT sending one's children away quite well. Blessings upon your efforts. Come visit my other blog at http://www.homedisciplingdad.blogspot.com Charley Hi Adam,

I’m glad to hear you are going to homeschool…does that mean you are currently homeschooling, or planning to as young ones get old enough? Even if you are convinced of your position, I found all three of these books to be extremely encouraging as well as very good for formulating your overall homeschooling philosophies.

I agree that every time a person justifies his sending his children to the government schools, he says his particular schools are good relative to the others. Somehow I suspect that can’t truly be the case!

And I think you have stated the position for argument for NOT sending one’s children away quite well.

Blessings upon your efforts. Come visit my other blog at http://www.homedisciplingdad.blogspot.com

Charley

]]> By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13550 Adam Graham Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:26:34 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13550 Though sound like those are some excellent books, and a good place to start if you're examining the issue. Not particularly relevant to me as I'll be homeschooling my kids regardless. And of course there are few schools that aren't all that bad, but I think their number is overestimated by parents who'd rather not have to deal with the issue. Regardless, every parent will answer to God for how they raised their children and what they became. Regardless, I'll agree that parents should be discipling kids at home regardless of where they're sending them to school. I think it's a huge problem that parents send their kids to school and expect an hour of church + 1 1/2 hours of youth group (if that.) can deal with propoganda in the public schools or that their duty has been met by that. I'm downright disturbed by parents who claim that they're sending their kids as an almost missionary effort. Now 5 year olds certainly have led some people to Christ, but neither at church or home have kids given that preparation, so it seems like more of an excuse. Though sound like those are some excellent books, and a good place to start if you’re examining the issue. Not particularly relevant to me as I’ll be homeschooling my kids regardless. And of course there are few schools that aren’t all that bad, but I think their number is overestimated by parents who’d rather not have to deal with the issue. Regardless, every parent will answer to God for how they raised their children and what they became.

Regardless, I’ll agree that parents should be discipling kids at home regardless of where they’re sending them to school. I think it’s a huge problem that parents send their kids to school and expect an hour of church + 1 1/2 hours of youth group (if that.) can deal with propoganda in the public schools or that their duty has been met by that. I’m downright disturbed by parents who claim that they’re sending their kids as an almost missionary effort. Now 5 year olds certainly have led some people to Christ, but neither at church or home have kids given that preparation, so it seems like more of an excuse.

]]> By: Charley http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13525 Charley Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:28:00 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13525 Then you aren't looking very hard! You are correct in that there is no "specific" command to homeschool. As I said in the previous comment, not all aspects of life are addressed in "thus says the Lord" commands. The Bible is laced with principles about how to raise a child (Deuteronomy 6, Psalm 1, Proverbs, Ephesians 6...to name a few). From these passages (and others), it is fairly simple to conclude that intentionally sending a child to an officially pagan, God-hating government school is NOT what God has in mind. The principles don't necessarily prohibit a solidly Christian school, but even then, I think an argument can be made for the discipling that can only be done with your children home with you for their developing years. If you TRULY are interested in this subject, many more studied than I have written eloquently about it. I would recommend the following books: "When You Rise Up" by R.C. Spoul, Jr, "Upgrade" by Kevin Swanson, and "Family Driven Faith" by Dr. Voddie Baucham...all available at Amazon.com. Charley Then you aren’t looking very hard! You are correct in that there is no “specific” command to homeschool. As I said in the previous comment, not all aspects of life are addressed in “thus says the Lord” commands. The Bible is laced with principles about how to raise a child (Deuteronomy 6, Psalm 1, Proverbs, Ephesians 6…to name a few). From these passages (and others), it is fairly simple to conclude that intentionally sending a child to an officially pagan, God-hating government school is NOT what God has in mind. The principles don’t necessarily prohibit a solidly Christian school, but even then, I think an argument can be made for the discipling that can only be done with your children home with you for their developing years. If you TRULY are interested in this subject, many more studied than I have written eloquently about it. I would recommend the following books: “When You Rise Up” by R.C. Spoul, Jr, “Upgrade” by Kevin Swanson, and “Family Driven Faith” by Dr. Voddie Baucham…all available at Amazon.com.

Charley

]]> By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13487 Adam Graham Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:25:42 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13487 I don't see a specific biblical command to homeschool or to any specific driection. I don’t see a specific biblical command to homeschool or to any specific driection.

]]> By: Charley http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13383 Charley Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:02:54 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13383 ...Except that the raising and discipling of your children isn't one of the "silent" issues. And I would dare say that while there may not be direct "Thus says the Lord" commandments for all aspects of life, it would be tough to find anything in life that God doesn't address by principle or normative example. It just requires work to flesh out what God has to say about some things. …Except that the raising and discipling of your children isn’t one of the “silent” issues. And I would dare say that while there may not be direct “Thus says the Lord” commandments for all aspects of life, it would be tough to find anything in life that God doesn’t address by principle or normative example. It just requires work to flesh out what God has to say about some things.

]]> By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13244 Adam Graham Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:35:11 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13244 There are some issues that scirpture doesn't speak and when scripture is silent, that's when God's Spirit leads and when others should be silent when scriptures are silent. There are some issues that scirpture doesn’t speak and when scripture is silent, that’s when God’s Spirit leads and when others should be silent when scriptures are silent.

]]> By: Charley http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-13229 Charley Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:18:14 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/forget-that-iron-sharpens-iron-stuff/#comment-13229 Actually, "This is what I FEEL led to do." ISN'T enough! One who claims Christ as Lord and Savior doesn't make determinations by feelings, but rather by the revealed Word of His Lord. In the educational realm, a Christian should be searching the Scriptures and determining what God would have him do regarding his children...and then doing just that! I have a post on "feelings" at http://riseupandgetserious.blogspot.com/2007/06/i-have-peace-about-it.html Charley Actually, “This is what I FEEL led to do.” ISN’T enough! One who claims Christ as Lord and Savior doesn’t make determinations by feelings, but rather by the revealed Word of His Lord. In the educational realm, a Christian should be searching the Scriptures and determining what God would have him do regarding his children…and then doing just that! I have a post on “feelings” at http://riseupandgetserious.blogspot.com/2007/06/i-have-peace-about-it.html

Charley

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