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		<title>By: Adam Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/john-mccain-won-saddleback/comment-page-1/#comment-52521</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one wants to be careful on abortion, it would seem to make sense to err on the side of life. 

Secondly, of course there&#039;s a winner and a loser, there&#039;s someone who walks away strong, and someone who walks away weaker by failing to impress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one wants to be careful on abortion, it would seem to make sense to err on the side of life. </p>
<p>Secondly, of course there&#8217;s a winner and a loser, there&#8217;s someone who walks away strong, and someone who walks away weaker by failing to impress.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. It was not a contest... it was a forum.  One does not win a forum, one wins the following...
a game
a debate
a war
an arugument
an election

Saying that someone won a forum is very close to saying that a person is awarded a paycheck, or that a person earned a gift.

A better question than that of who won or lost is &quot;What did the candidates learn?&quot;

In the first section they learned that Obama regrets being selfish in his consumption of drugs and alchohol when he was young and that McCain is sorry for his marriage failure.  They learned that Obama would seek advice from a wide variety of sources, while McCain would seek advice from the &quot;professionals&quot; of the respective fields of interest.  We learned that Obama is in favor of restrictions on late term abortion as long as the mother&#039;s life is not in danger, that he favors Roe V. Wade because he wants to leave the ultimate decsion up to the mother.  We learned that McCain is a Pro Life candidate, who sees his personal opinion as fact.  We learned that Obama doesn&#039;t know when life begins - so he&#039;s more careful about legislating opinnions.  etc.

If anyone wins or loses in a forum it is those in attendence.  People who do not hear both candidates out, who say &quot;Well I don&#039;t know what HE just said,&quot;  Or simply look for pat answers without any substial explainations of what those answers mean, those are the loosers.

The people who put the work and effort into staying attentive enough to understand what the candidates mean by what they say, those are the winners.

Be a winner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. It was not a contest&#8230; it was a forum.  One does not win a forum, one wins the following&#8230;<br />
a game<br />
a debate<br />
a war<br />
an arugument<br />
an election</p>
<p>Saying that someone won a forum is very close to saying that a person is awarded a paycheck, or that a person earned a gift.</p>
<p>A better question than that of who won or lost is &#8220;What did the candidates learn?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the first section they learned that Obama regrets being selfish in his consumption of drugs and alchohol when he was young and that McCain is sorry for his marriage failure.  They learned that Obama would seek advice from a wide variety of sources, while McCain would seek advice from the &#8220;professionals&#8221; of the respective fields of interest.  We learned that Obama is in favor of restrictions on late term abortion as long as the mother&#8217;s life is not in danger, that he favors Roe V. Wade because he wants to leave the ultimate decsion up to the mother.  We learned that McCain is a Pro Life candidate, who sees his personal opinion as fact.  We learned that Obama doesn&#8217;t know when life begins &#8211; so he&#8217;s more careful about legislating opinnions.  etc.</p>
<p>If anyone wins or loses in a forum it is those in attendence.  People who do not hear both candidates out, who say &#8220;Well I don&#8217;t know what HE just said,&#8221;  Or simply look for pat answers without any substial explainations of what those answers mean, those are the loosers.</p>
<p>The people who put the work and effort into staying attentive enough to understand what the candidates mean by what they say, those are the winners.</p>
<p>Be a winner</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/john-mccain-won-saddleback/comment-page-1/#comment-52445</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the Saddleback debate was a wonderful way to gauge the two candidates and compare them to one another. I also think that Rick Warren did a great job, with balanced and probing questions ... questions which any legitimate candidate for President of the United States should have already wrestled with on his own, way before arriving at this debate. Therefore, why did Obama respond to the questions as if it was the first time he has ever considered these points. John McCain&#039;s immediate and decisive answers show that he had already given a great deal of thought to real concerns, as posed in these questions ... where as Obama had to take the time to stutter and deliberate over the same questions asked of McCain. This was very revealing, and so were the Obama camp&#039;s accusations of cheating, after Obama lost the debate ... just another indication that Obama is a sore loser who is not qualified to lead this country ... and, McCain is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the Saddleback debate was a wonderful way to gauge the two candidates and compare them to one another. I also think that Rick Warren did a great job, with balanced and probing questions &#8230; questions which any legitimate candidate for President of the United States should have already wrestled with on his own, way before arriving at this debate. Therefore, why did Obama respond to the questions as if it was the first time he has ever considered these points. John McCain&#8217;s immediate and decisive answers show that he had already given a great deal of thought to real concerns, as posed in these questions &#8230; where as Obama had to take the time to stutter and deliberate over the same questions asked of McCain. This was very revealing, and so were the Obama camp&#8217;s accusations of cheating, after Obama lost the debate &#8230; just another indication that Obama is a sore loser who is not qualified to lead this country &#8230; and, McCain is.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Obama wins just by showing up. In addition, if we want to talk about supporters, the cult of Obama makes normal people wince with their O-Salute and declarations of Messiahhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Obama wins just by showing up. In addition, if we want to talk about supporters, the cult of Obama makes normal people wince with their O-Salute and declarations of Messiahhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan E. Harman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan E. Harman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And McCain&#039;s SUPPORTERS will help him lose the election.  Talk about some truly ugly talking people on the AOL forum following the Saddleback Q and A.  McCain can thank his friends should he lose in November, because they are the most likely to rally the Dems to turn out for Obama, along with any Republican fully disgusted by Bush.  Sorry buddy.  But it doesn&#039;t matter if Obama came &quot;unprepared&quot; to the Q and A.  And McCain was more relaxed and more prepared.  Obama had the courage to show up and give his answers as best he could.  McCain hasn&#039;t always showed up in places where it wasn&#039;t to his political advantage.  So, are we going to mock Obama for &quot;stumbling&quot; and a lot of ers and ums?  Then let me remind you of the video of McCain not having much respect for his wife and marriage in front of a bunch of bikers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And McCain&#8217;s SUPPORTERS will help him lose the election.  Talk about some truly ugly talking people on the AOL forum following the Saddleback Q and A.  McCain can thank his friends should he lose in November, because they are the most likely to rally the Dems to turn out for Obama, along with any Republican fully disgusted by Bush.  Sorry buddy.  But it doesn&#8217;t matter if Obama came &#8220;unprepared&#8221; to the Q and A.  And McCain was more relaxed and more prepared.  Obama had the courage to show up and give his answers as best he could.  McCain hasn&#8217;t always showed up in places where it wasn&#8217;t to his political advantage.  So, are we going to mock Obama for &#8220;stumbling&#8221; and a lot of ers and ums?  Then let me remind you of the video of McCain not having much respect for his wife and marriage in front of a bunch of bikers.</p>
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