October 31, 2008

Minnick’s D+ NRA Rating Update

Posted by Adam Graham in : Bill Sali

Bubblehead took issue with my attack on Minnick’s extremely low NRA rating of D+. Bubblehead said, “As Minnick himself says, when he answered the question that got him the D+ rating, he was talking about things like fully automatic machine guns and RPGs.”

Well, I decided to e-mail the E-mail the NRA, Political Victory Fund and asked them about their stance on the issue and why they’d given Minnick the D+ rating. George Dovel of the NRA Political Victory Fund explained:

The two items that were cited in the NRA D+ rating for Walt Minnick were (1) that he did not support the ownership of guns that are not used for sporting purposes and (2) that he supported the Brady Bill. The Attorney General and subsequently the U.S. Supreme Court properly ruled that the Second Amendment is not about hunting or target shooting – it is about the right to own and use firearms for protection. Since the ruling that District of Columbia residents, and all others except convicted felons or people judged to be mentally unfit or a threat to someone else (e.g. under a protection order), are entitled by our Constitution to own firearms solely for self-protection, many states, counties and cities have been forced to change their anti-gun laws.

When Australians were given the amnesty period to turn in their guns, those that were used for hunting or sporting purposes were excluded. That resulted in an effective ban on owning or possessing firearms for self-protection much to the dismay of people I have communicated with there who believed it was okay to outlaw so-called “Saturday night specials” and weapons that may permit the use of extended magazines.

Unfortunately many well-intentioned U.S. politicians believe that affordable handguns or other firearms intended solely for self-protection should not be made available to Americans, especially including those who are less affluent. In the 15 years or so that I have acted as an NRA election volunteer I have never known of a candidate for office in Idaho that did not claim to support the Second Amendment.

Minnick has cited his support from American Hunters and Shooters Association, which from all accounts seems to be a front group for gun control activists according to the Gun Owners of America:

“Walt Minnick claims to support the Second Amendment, yet he is endorsed by a new breed of anti-gun radicals masquerading as friends of gun rights.

“The American Hunters and Shooters Association — a group supporting Minnick — has a name designed to appeal to gun owners and sportsmen, but it is nothing more than a front organization for the Obama campaign and gun control extremists.

“Anti-gun activists know the American people do not support their radical agenda. The old gun control groups that enjoyed their heyday during two Clinton administrations are shrinking or are out of existence. So they’ve come up with clever new packaging, using images of hunters instead of criminal street gangs as illustrations on campaign literature. But a picture of a hunter on a website is not going to pull the wool over the eyes of gun owners.

“Just look at the candidates AHSA’s president Ray Schoenke has contributed to in the past: Al Gore, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein and Ted Kennedy, not to mention Handgun Control, Inc. This list represents the Who’s Who of the anti-gun movement!

“This year AHSA is touting Barack Obama, who would be the most anti-gun president in the history of this country.

“If congressional candidate Walt Minnick cared one bit about the Second Amendment, he would publicly denounce the radical AHSA.

“Rep. Bill Sali stands in stark contrast to his anti-gun opponent, earning an ‘A+’ rating from GOA for his efforts in Congress to protect and defend the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.

“Gun Owners of America is proud to endorse Rep. Bill Sali for reelection, and urges gun owners and sportsmen to vote on Tuesday.”

We’re seeing the success of both the second Amendment and pro-life causes with Democrats creating fake groups to pretend to support those things, even if they’re working against them. The NRA has an article on their website fully explaining their view on the organization. Any group that claims to care about guns and supports Barack Obama is a little nuts.

Obama served on the board of the Joyce foundation, which used its deep pockets to push anti-gun research. According to PJM, here’s how it went down:

During Obama’s tenure, the Joyce Foundation board planned and implemented a program targeting the Supreme Court. The work began five years into Obama’s directorship, when the Foundation had experience in turning its millions into anti-gun “grassroots” organizations, but none at converting cash into legal scholarship.

The plan’s objective was bold: the judicial obliteration of the Second Amendment.

Joyce’s directors found a vulnerable point. When judges cannot rely upon past decisions, they sometimes turn to law review articles. Law reviews are impartial, and famed for meticulous cite-checking. They are also produced on a shoestring. Authors of articles receive no compensation; editors are law students who work for a tiny stipend.

In 1999, midway through Obama’s tenure, the Joyce board voted to grant the Chicago-Kent Law Review $84,000, a staggering sum by law review standards. The Review promptly published an issue in which all articles attacked the individual right view of the Second Amendment.

Their efforts almost worked. Those who dissented from the court’s decision decision upholding the second Amendment as an individual right cited articles that the Joyce Foundation funded. Again, how could any group seriously concerned about firearms back Obama?

5 Comments

  1. Comment by Bubblehead

    Did the NRA guy just make up that part about Walt Minnick not supporting ownership of guns used for home defense? It seems so, because as I recall the response Minnick gave had to do with sporting uses or home defense. Minnick himself owns three handguns; I’m not aware of any legitimate sporting event that uses anything bigger than a .22 caliber handgun. During the KTVB debate, I specifically remember Minnick talking about how he supported people using guns to defend their home; as I remember, his point was that you should be able to defend your homes with handguns or shotguns, and wouldn’t need RPGs or machine guns. Unless, of course, you’re planning on defending your house against peace officers trying to execute a warrant…

  2. Comment by Adam Graham

    Of course, the NRA just makes stuff up, Bubblehead. Yeah, they gave Larry LaRocco an A and in Montana, they’ve given Senator Max Baucus (D-Mt.) and A+ and they’ve even endorsed John Murtha, but you see the NRA has its own individual vendetta against Walt Minnick, so they just had a secret conspiracy to give him the worst grade of any Democrat in the Intermountain West. That must have been it…

    The fact is that Walt Minnick hedges his words very carefully and will say what he thinks it takes to win. Calling the veracity of the NRA seems absurd at this point.

  3. Comment by Bubblehead

    From this article:

    At the center of this debate is the 27-question National Rifle Association survey Minnick completed earlier this year.

    The survey included this question: “The NRA opposes gun bans as a violation of both the Second Amendment and common sense. (However, fully automatic firearms, short-barreled shotguns, and certain “destructive devices” are currently very strictly regulated.) Which of the following statements best describes your opinion about banning firearms?”

    Minnick, an NRA member, wrote “firearms with no legitimate sporting or recreational use” should be banned.

    Andrew Arulanandam, an NRA spokesman in Virginia and a former Idaho GOP state director, said that answer won Minnick the poor rating.

    “It’s reasonable to conclude, based on Walt’s response … that he believes that a woman with a restraining order against a violent ex-, or the parole officer who has a conceal-carry permit to defend himself and his family from some of the people he deals with in his line of work, that these people don’t deserve to own a firearm,” Arulanandam said.

    Minnick aides counter that the question referred to unconventional automatic weapons, short-barreled shotguns and “destructive devices.” His response was never meant to be interpreted as opposition to handguns used for self defense, said John Foster, Minnick’s spokesman in Boise.

    “From Walt’s perspective, there’s no reason for someone to have a howitzer in their backyard or a .50-caliber machine gun in their garage,” Foster said. “It’s about protecting the rights of lawful gun owners by making sure they stay out of the hands of felons and criminals.”

    Minnick’s answers did conform with the NRA’s stance opposing registration, federal licensing and waiting periods — and backing the U.S. Supreme Court’s June 2008 decision to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban.

    So, basically, you and the NRA are holding him to what “could be reasonably assumed” from his answer on what could be considered a poorly-worded question and ignoring any subsequent explanations. How about this: If Walt Minnick votes to take away any guns you have in the next two years, I’ll vote for whatever Republican is nominated from this district in 2010. If Walt doesn’t vote to take away your guns, you admit you were wrong. Deal?

  4. Comment by Bubblehead

    Anyway, nowhere in the answer Minnick gave does he say that he does not support the ownership of guns that are not used for sporting purposes, he said he doesn’t support guns that have no recreational or sporting purpose. There’s a big difference. Anyone who understands the English language would recognize that, and the NRA guy you E-mailed seemed to be deliberately obtuse in not admitting that. Whether that means he’s lying or just doesn’t understand English, I’m not sure. As Minnick said in the debate (paraphrasing), if you can’t hit a burglar with a shotgun, you need to work on your aim.

  5. Comment by Adam Graham

    Yeah, so every Democrat in the West who has a higher rating than Walt Minnick on guns actually favors people owning Machine guns. Is that your position? That Max Baucus that you ought to own Machine Guns? Do you think Mark and Tom Udall, the Democratic Senate Candidates from Colorado and New Mexico believe that? They got higher grades than Minnick.

    Or could it be that Walt Minnick was so obtuse, he didn’t understand the question. Regardless, his endorsemnt a gun control group that backs Obama such as the AHSA shows that the NRA is right and that gun owners can’t trust Walt Minnick.

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