Comments on: Political Calculus: Third Party Better for GOP than Giuliani Presidency http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/ Fighting a never ending battle... Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:04:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tom Spencer http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-23601 Tom Spencer Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:49:49 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/#comment-23601 "The Republican Party would be better off than if Rudy Giuliani wins the Presidency." Huh? An audacious statement? How about unintelligible? The word "than" needs and antecedent, such as "if", in order for your sentence to make any sense. The only thing you've convinced me of is that our school systems stink, unless you're a first grader, in which case, good work. “The Republican Party would be better off than if Rudy Giuliani wins the Presidency.”

Huh? An audacious statement? How about unintelligible? The word “than” needs and antecedent, such as “if”, in order for your sentence to make any sense. The only thing you’ve convinced me of is that our school systems stink, unless you’re a first grader, in which case, good work.

]]> By: Adam Graham http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-23388 Adam Graham Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:12:18 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/#comment-23388 First of all, Religious Conservatives include a big block of people. Conservative Catholics, Mormons who Believe in the Sanctity of Human Life, Orthodox Jews are a big block of the party. You jettison those people and you lose. And the fact that a preferred candidate doesn't show up is silly as most of these folks are not primarily political animals and may have not even begun to focus. Others have committed themselves to Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. It's a divided force, but if you say goodbye to the religious conservatives in many states, you can say goodbye to the Republican Party. As for Moderates, moderates "in charge" gets us the chummy days of Eisenhower and Nixon because they also LOVE government and believe in a bigger state, so they'd drive out economic conservatives. There is not a large group of moderates waiting to come into the GOP, there's no evidence for it. First of all, Religious Conservatives include a big block of people. Conservative Catholics, Mormons who Believe in the Sanctity of Human Life, Orthodox Jews are a big block of the party. You jettison those people and you lose. And the fact that a preferred candidate doesn’t show up is silly as most of these folks are not primarily political animals and may have not even begun to focus. Others have committed themselves to Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. It’s a divided force, but if you say goodbye to the religious conservatives in many states, you can say goodbye to the Republican Party.

As for Moderates, moderates “in charge” gets us the chummy days of Eisenhower and Nixon because they also LOVE government and believe in a bigger state, so they’d drive out economic conservatives. There is not a large group of moderates waiting to come into the GOP, there’s no evidence for it.

]]> By: Bubblehead http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-23376 Bubblehead Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:48:29 +0000 http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/political-calculus-third-party-better-for-gop-than-giuliani-presidency/#comment-23376 So, basically, you're saying that Evangelicals -- a fairly small minority of the party, as shown by their inability to get a preferred candidate above 10% in the polls -- should be allowed to dictate who the party nominates so they don't take their ball and go home. I'd say a better idea would be to jettison the Evangelicals, and when the much larger group of moderates sees the Evangelicals aren't trying to control the party anymore, they'll rejoin the Republican Party as they did in the 80s. Of course, that won't be until after 2008. So, basically, you’re saying that Evangelicals — a fairly small minority of the party, as shown by their inability to get a preferred candidate above 10% in the polls — should be allowed to dictate who the party nominates so they don’t take their ball and go home.

I’d say a better idea would be to jettison the Evangelicals, and when the much larger group of moderates sees the Evangelicals aren’t trying to control the party anymore, they’ll rejoin the Republican Party as they did in the 80s. Of course, that won’t be until after 2008.

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