February 10, 2006

The Benefits of Homosexual Non-Marriage

Posted by Adam Graham in : Christianity

Bryan Fischer at Idaho Values Alliance has an update up on the marriage Amendment and allegations that the lack of a freedom to marry hurts Homosexuals in regards to visitation:

Yet there is nothing in the amendment that prohibits individuals from entering into private contractual relationships with another individual regarding medical decisions and hospital visitation, and of course it’s possible to include anyone you would like in your will.

Under Idaho law, an individual may designate anyone of his choice to make health care decisions on his behalf. You may examine the legal form by clicking the link below. Due to a recent change in Idaho law, it is not even necessary to get this form notarized.

As Clayton Cramer points out in his blog, this process is actually less cumbersome than getting married.

This serves as a reminder that entering into marriage actually involves relinquishing certain personal rights and freedoms. In marriage, two individuals make a binding commitment to one another that involves the sacrifice of certain liberties. They do this willingly for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of the children they hope to conceive together and with whom they hope to build a family.

There is, of course, nothing in the amendment that prevents two homosexuals from making and keeping any kind of commitments they’d like to each other, but in reality they possess more liberty and freedom now than they would if they were married.

Bill Emory retors in the comments:

Perhaps your bill is not a barrier to medical visitation but is a barrier for gay and lesbian couples to seek to inherit their partner’s social security. This coming June 29 my partner and I will celebrate five years together, which is longer than most heterosexual marriages last. We have made a solemn commitment to each other’s well-being, and we are relentlessly monogamous. As law-abiding, taxpaying citizens, we contribute our fair share into Social Security.

Last year I contacted the Social Security Administration (SSA) to see if there was any paperwork or other arrangements I could make to designate Greg for survivorship benefits in the event of my untimely death. I was told I was unable to do, since we are not married. More recently I visited the SSA Web site and did some calculations concerning what survivorship benefits my spouse might be entitled to. Assuming I did the calculations correctly, I found out my married spouse would be eligible for over $800 per month (after retirement) in the event of my death. I think anyone would agree that $800 per month is a pretty hefty chunk of change. However, it is money that Greg is not eligible for, because we are not married, nor are we allowed to get married.

I would like to provide for the financial well-being of my spouse, just as I’m sure any married person would, but in essence I’m throwing away money on a fund that Greg is not allowed to take advantage of in the event of my death. At the very least, the government should allow gay spouses to designate each other for survivorship benefits under Social Security.

Well, then I’m sure Mr. Emory will support the creation of Private Social Security Accounts and make sure you can designate your own beneficiary. We welcome him to that cause. Second point, is that anyone who leaves their loved ones at the mercy of Social Security for subsistence isn’t worth their salt.

In addition, Mr. Emory’s got a few facts wrongs. From the Social Security benefits page:

Who can get survivors benefits based on your work?

Your widow or widower can receive full benefits at age 65 or older (if born before January 2, 1940) or reduced benefits as early as age 60. (The age for receiving full benefits is increasing for widows and widowers born after 1939 until it reaches age 67 for people born in 1962 and later.) Visit www.socialsecurity.gov/ww&os2.htm to view the chart that lists the percentage of benefits payable to a widow or widower based on their age. Your disabled widow or widower can get benefits at age 50.
Your widow or widower can receive benefits at any age if she or he takes care of your child who is entitled

If you are getting benefits as a wife or husband based on your spouse’s work, when you report the death to us, we will change your payments to survivors benefits. If we need more information, we will contact you.

If you are getting benefits based on your own work, call or visit us, and we will check to see if you can get more money as a widow or widower. You will receive the higher benefit, not a combination of the two types of benefits. You will need to complete an application to switch to survivors benefits, and we will need to see your spouse’s death certificate.

So, his “spouse” could only get benefits if the $800 a month was more than he’d earn on his own with Social Security and his spouse would get a whole $255 on his death.

The practical, actual effects of marriage to homosexuals can be obtained now with do-it yourself contracts that are much cheaper than actual marriage. What will Gay Marriage do, James Dobson has some quotes that provide some answers:

Liberal columnist Michael Kinsley wrote a July 2003 op-ed piece in The Washington Post titled, “Abolish Marriage: Let’s Really Get the Government Out Of Our Bedrooms.” In this revealing editorial, Kinsley writes, “[The] solution is to end the institution of marriage, or rather, the solution is to end the institution of government monopoly on marriage. And yes, if three people want to get married, or one person wants to marry herself and someone else wants to conduct a ceremony and declare them married, let ’em. If you and your government aren’t implicated, what do you care? If marriage were an entirely private affair, all the disputes over gay marriages would become irrelevant.” Otherwise, the author warns, “it’s going to get ugly.”

Judith Levine, writing in The Village Voice, offered support for these ideas in an article titled “Stop the Wedding: Why Gay Marriage Isn’t Radical Enough.” She wrote, “Because American marriage is inextricable from Christianity, it admits participants as Noah let animals on the ark. But it doesn’t have to be that way. In 1972 the National Coalition of Gay Organizations demanded the ‘repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.’ Group marriage could comprise any combination of genders.”

Stanley Kurtz, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, summed up the situation in a recent Weekly Standard article. He noted that if gay marriage is legalized, “marriage will be transformed into a variety of relationship contracts, linking two, three or more individuals (however weakly or temporarily) in every conceivable combination of male and female … the bottom of this slope is visible from where we now stand.”

We must all become soberly aware of a deeply disturbing reality: The homosexual agenda is not marriage for gays. It is marriage for no one. And despite what you read or see in the media, it is definitely not monogamous.

What will happen sociologically if marriage becomes anything or everything or nothing? The short answer is that the State will lose its compelling interest in marital relationships altogether. After marriage has been redefined, divorces will be obtained instantly, will not involve a court, and will take on the status of a driver’s license or a hunting permit. With the family out of the way, all rights and privileges of marriage will accrue to gay and lesbian partners without the legal entanglements and commitments heretofore associated with it.

With marriage as we know it gone, everyone would enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage (custody rights, tax-free inheritance, joint ownership of property, health care and spousal citizenship, and much more) without limiting the number of partners or their gender. Nor would “couples” be bound to each other in the eyes of the law. This is clearly where the movement is headed. If you doubt that this is the motive, read what is in the literature today. Activists have created a new word to replace the outmoded terms infidelity, adultery, cheating and promiscuity. The new concept is polyamorous. It means the same thing (literally “many loves”) but with the agreement of the primary sexual partner. Why not? He or she is probably polyamorous, too.

It is not that the radical homosexual movement is trying to make Homosexuals part of the traditional marriage ideal (with just the sexes reversed) but are trying to demolish society’s basic understanding of that institution. These are the stakes.

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8 Comments

  1. Comment by "Radical" Russ [Visitor]

    OK, then, if there are all these allegedly easy ways to gain an approximation of the rights of marriage, then why do homosexuals have to jump through seventy-umpteen hoops to get what you and I can get by jumping through one? Sounds like “special rights for heterosexuals” to me.

    Plus, even if the homosexuals jump through the seventy-umpteen hoops in Idaho, they then move to Ohio which passes a law that invalidates all the rights they had in Idaho. If you and Andrea move to Ohio, they must give full faith and credit to all your marriage rights.

    I’m really stunned by how hard the Religious Right is fighting this. Since Massachusetts let gay people get married, have you hit a rocky patch in your marriage? Does the knowledge that Vermont is letting queers have rights lead to domestic disputes in the Graham household?

    I just don’t get it. And even if the typical arguments (“what about the children!?!”, “next men will marry manatees!”, “an epidemic of pedophilic polygamy!”, “god hates fags!”) are true, so what? Y’all are getting whisked off on the Rapture Express any minute now, right? Why do you care how the damned organize their legal recognition of domestic partnerships?

    In other words, feel free to believe what you want, but stop trying to make your Scriptures supercede the Constitution!

  2. Comment by "Radical" Russ [Visitor]

    It is marriage for no one. And despite what you read or see in the media, it is definitely not monogamous.

    I’ll be sure to tell Christy and Maria when I see them this weekend for their tenth anniversary party. I’ll even take a photo of their newborn baby to share with you.

  3. Comment by Andrea Graham [Member]

    I’ve told you before, Russ, the Rapture is a myth, a dangerous lie playing way too many of my brethern for fools.

    And you cannot take a picture of *their* baby, at least biologically speaking. It is biologically impossible for two women or two men to have a baby together. Every baby has a mother and a father. Marriage is, ideally, the union of the mother and the father. Check your dictionary, and make sure to look up “wife” and “husband” while you’re at it.

    Yes, sometimes one or more of the birth parents aren’t around, and as a society we deal with that. And sometimes the husband or the wife or both have medical issues that prevent them from procreating. That is not the moral equivalent of being unable to procreate because the couple does not have, by nature, the correct combination of gamates between them. That is simple, biological reality. Biological reality is what it is no matter what you or any gender-confused person wants it to be.

    In other words, feel free to believe what you want, but stop trying to make your liberal ideology/agenda supercede the Constitution.

  4. Comment by "Radical" Russ [Visitor]

    And you cannot take a picture of *their* baby, at least biologically speaking. It is biologically impossible for two women or two men to have a baby together.

    You’re absolutely correct. Excuse me, but I need to go call someone in Boston and tell him his adopted baby isn’t “his”.

    Furthermore, medical advances are very close to making it possible to extract the genetic material from the egg of one woman and artificially inseminate (inseminate… that word may also need redefition) the egg of another woman. Biologically speaking, it will be the child of the two women. Then your only fallback position will be that you morally don’t like them reproducing in such a manner… and we’re back to your religion being the law of the land.

    Gender-confused person? That is a very binary view of human creation. You’ve heard of h*rmaphrodites, right? Some are born with both sets of g*nitalia. Some are genetically male with female parts, and vice versa. There are rare genetic disorders where people are born XXY or XYY – are they “confused”?

    I checked my dictionary. You’ll be pleased as to what I found:

    WIFE (n): The ordinance of marriage was sanctioned in Paradise (Gen. 2:24; Matt. 19:4-6). Monogamy was the original law under which man lived, but polygamy early commenced (Gen. 4:19), and continued to prevail all down through Jewish history. The law of Moses regulated but did not prohibit polygamy. A man might have a plurality of wives, but a wife could have only one husband. A wife’s legal rights (Ex. 21:10) and her duties (Prov. 31:10-31; 1 Tim. 5:14) are specified. She could be divorced in special cases (Deut. 22:13-21), but could not divorce her husband. Divorce was restricted by our Lord to the single case of adultery (Matt. 19:3-9). The duties of husbands and wives in their relations to each other are distinctly set forth in the New Testament (1 Cor. 7:2-5; Eph. 5:22-33; Col. 3:18, 19; 1 Pet. 3:1-7).

    So, hmmm, your side changed the definition of the word “wife”; why can’t we change the definition of “marriage”?

  5. Comment by Adam Graham [Member]

    The definition of wife hasn’t changed, only the rights of the wife.

  6. Comment by Michael [Visitor]

    So, hmmm, your side changed the definition of the word “wife”; why can’t we change the definition of “marriage”?
    Russ

    You can. If you want to change any word or legal construct feel free. But just remember, if you can do it so can others. You want a war of cultures feel free to bring it on. But when the
    smoke clears be prepared for the possibility of being on the short end of the stick.

  7. Comment by Linda F [Visitor]

    First, 5 years is a pitifully short time to be committed. Most married people, other than the idiots who have “quickie” unions, stay together far longer – I am married 32 years, and have MANY friends with similar track records.

    Second, if the gay marriage thing ends up watering down the status of marriage, as is likely, I anticipate the government and other official institutions just negating the spousal benefits – i.e., no Social Security for spouses or widows, no health insurance for families, no tax deductions that benefit married people, etc. If marriage isn’t special, why give those in that status special privileges?

  8. Comment by Andrea Graham [Member]

    Gender-confused person? That is a very binary view of human creation. You’ve heard of h*rmaphrodites, right? Some are born with both sets of g*nitalia. Some are genetically male with female parts, and vice versa. There are rare genetic disorders where people are born XXY or XYY – are they “confused”?

    –actually, I did cover this in AP biology. There’s this wonderful thing about the Y chromosome. If you have one, you’re a boy, if you don’t, you’re a girl, no matter how many extra sex chromosomes you might have. Genetic disorders where one doesn’t develop properly physically, and psychological disorders where the brain has been wired to the wrong sex, do not change the standard. We do such people no favors by pretending they don’t have anything wrong with them. Better to love them as they are and do what we can to treat the disorder (hint: in the later the brain is the problem, not their body. They’re still wired the wrong way after you mutilate them to make them look more like what they think they are)

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