Comments on: Why You Can’t Trust the Left on Religious Freedom http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/why_you_can_t_trust_the_left_on_religiou/ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.-Ronald Reagan Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:31:36 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Adam Graham [Member] http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/why_you_can_t_trust_the_left_on_religiou/comment-page-1/#comment-1309 Adam Graham [Member] Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:10:34 +0000 http://blog.adamsweb.us/blog/index.php/a/2006/03/20/why-you-cant-trust-the-left-on-religious-freedom/#comment-1309 I don't have to ask them. Look at Russ' reaction to the Afghanistan thing. It SAYS it all. I don’t have to ask them. Look at Russ’ reaction to the Afghanistan thing. It SAYS it all.

]]> By: Bruce [Member] http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/why_you_can_t_trust_the_left_on_religiou/comment-page-1/#comment-1308 Bruce [Member] Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:08:33 +0000 http://blog.adamsweb.us/blog/index.php/a/2006/03/20/why-you-cant-trust-the-left-on-religious-freedom/#comment-1308 <i>Lets imagine some scenarios. Lets say:<br /> <br /> 1) All Evangelical Christians were rounded up and deported from the State of New York:<br /> <br /> Predicted Liberal Reaction: Shows them for not supporting gay marriage.<br /> <br /> 2) Muslims in Detroit kill hundreds of Christians and burn dozens of churches to the ground:<br /> <br /> Predicted Reaction: Well, when you don't clearly support the Seperation of Church and State, that happens.<br /> <br /> 3) Christians Put in Re-Education Camp in California<br /> <br /> Predicted Reaction: Call it Reparitive Theory for anti-gay bigots </i><br /> <br /> Looks like a bunch or straw men to me. How about instead of imagining what the left would do, you ask the left. That's the honest thing to do.<br /> <br /> Bruce Lets imagine some scenarios. Lets say:

1) All Evangelical Christians were rounded up and deported from the State of New York:

Predicted Liberal Reaction: Shows them for not supporting gay marriage.

2) Muslims in Detroit kill hundreds of Christians and burn dozens of churches to the ground:

Predicted Reaction: Well, when you don’t clearly support the Seperation of Church and State, that happens.

3) Christians Put in Re-Education Camp in California

Predicted Reaction: Call it Reparitive Theory for anti-gay bigots

Looks like a bunch or straw men to me. How about instead of imagining what the left would do, you ask the left. That’s the honest thing to do.

Bruce

]]> By: Adam Graham [Member] http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/why_you_can_t_trust_the_left_on_religiou/comment-page-1/#comment-1307 Adam Graham [Member] Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:34:36 +0000 http://blog.adamsweb.us/blog/index.php/a/2006/03/20/why-you-cant-trust-the-left-on-religious-freedom/#comment-1307 David Limbaugh wrote a whole book on this. You have Christians being told to cover crosses on their persons at the threat of being fired. My point is that simply put you can't trust those who say, "Trust us. We won't allow infringements on your religious liberty" to actually fight to protect religious liberty when the rubber meets the road. David Limbaugh wrote a whole book on this. You have Christians being told to cover crosses on their persons at the threat of being fired. My point is that simply put you can’t trust those who say, “Trust us. We won’t allow infringements on your religious liberty” to actually fight to protect religious liberty when the rubber meets the road.

]]> By: cadfile [Member] http://www.adamsweb.us/blog/why_you_can_t_trust_the_left_on_religiou/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 cadfile [Member] Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:04:11 +0000 http://blog.adamsweb.us/blog/index.php/a/2006/03/20/why-you-cant-trust-the-left-on-religious-freedom/#comment-1306 A lot of wild speculation and reaching for your conclusion. What is your definition of persecution? Persecution is persistent mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. Is is near impossible for a majority religion to be persecuted. My guess is when Christians complain of persecution in the US they are more likely complaining about losing their special status within the overall culture - like the debates over the 10 Commandments in court houses and "under God" in the pledge. It is simply a false complaint.<br /> <br /> Equating real persecution like the article at the begining of your post noted, and the political debate over religion having a special status in the US government is comparing apples and oranges.<br /> <br /> It doesn't follow that "you can't trust the left with religious liberty" since the situations aren't the same.<br /> <br /> In the US, the persecution clearly is going against non-Christians and non-believers as Christians are struggling in their death grasp as the "chosen people" of this country deserving of special status and special rights.<br /> <br /> A lot of wild speculation and reaching for your conclusion. What is your definition of persecution? Persecution is persistent mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. Is is near impossible for a majority religion to be persecuted. My guess is when Christians complain of persecution in the US they are more likely complaining about losing their special status within the overall culture – like the debates over the 10 Commandments in court houses and “under God” in the pledge. It is simply a false complaint.

Equating real persecution like the article at the begining of your post noted, and the political debate over religion having a special status in the US government is comparing apples and oranges.

It doesn’t follow that “you can’t trust the left with religious liberty” since the situations aren’t the same.

In the US, the persecution clearly is going against non-Christians and non-believers as Christians are struggling in their death grasp as the “chosen people” of this country deserving of special status and special rights.

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